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H.S. 475 Stuyvesant High School

 
345 Chambers Street Manhattan, NY 10282
Phone: (212) 312-4800  Fax: (212) 587-3874
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Principal: Stanley Teitel
Parent Coordinator: Harvey Blumm (347) 563-5099

WHAT'S SPECIAL: Amazingly talented student body and a vast array of courses
DOWNSIDE: Students don't get a lot of sleep
 
Grade levels: 9 to 12
Class size: 34
Enrollment: 3247
Ethnicity %:
  30 W; 2 B; 3 H; 65 A
4 year graduation rate: 97.0%
District 2
HS Supt: Jill Myers
Admissions: exam
Neighborhood: Battery Park City
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The most sought-after of the city's selective schools, Stuyvesant High School has an amazingly talented student body and an array of course offerings that rival those of a small college. It has a sparkling, 10-story building with views of New York harbor and amenities such as a regulation-size swimming pool. Stuyvesant has long been known as a math-science school, but its English and social studies departments have improved significantly in recent years and now are among the school's strongest.

Nearly 27,000 students vie for 800 seats in the freshman class. Roughly one-quarter of Stuyvesant's top graduates go to the Ivy League and many others go to highly selective schools such as the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Students may conduct research with senior scientists, take part in national math competitions, or study music at a high level. Immigrants and children of immigrants make up a large proportion of the student body.

The excitement of being enrolled at Stuyvesant comes from being in the company of very bright, engaged students. "It's a community of academics, from the students all the way up," said social studies teacher Brad Badgley. "The students are great. They work really hard and they are really creative in a lot of ways. And the teachers are always trying to do more."

While some teachers are inspired, the school has long been known for its talented students rather than a uniformly strong teaching staff. For many years, Stuyvesant's teachers were hired according to the teachers' union contract, which places seniority above teaching skills or academic qualifications. That meant poorly qualified but senior teachers were sometimes assigned to the school over the objection of the principal and other faculty members. Happily, the 2005 teachers' contract abandoned the seniority clause, and while the contract does nothing to dislodge current teachers who may be below par, Principal Stanley Teitel is hopeful that future hires will be of consistently high quality.

The school has a reputation as an ultra-competitive pressure cooker more stressful than its rival, Bronx High School of Science. But Parent Coordinator Harvey Blumm said the administration has taken steps to lower the pressure, particularly for 9th graders. "The school has made a concerted effort to ratchet down the [homework] load on freshman," he said, adding that freshman have about three hours of homework a night. Students' grade point averages are no longer listed on report cards and there is an attempt to "de-emphasize the numbers" minute differences in grades among highly talented students that are often the source of competition. Still, the principal says, "Kids don't get a lot of sleep."

The student body is 55 percent male and 45 percent female. Blumm is working to attract students, particularly girls, who don't feel their strength is math and science. "A lot of girls are intimidated by math," he said. "The message I give is if you are passionate about humanities, please come to Stuyvesant."

The course selection is vast, including acoustic technology; Japanese; multivariate calculus; artificial intelligence; Latin American film; modern China; and race, ethnicity, and gender. Some classes are taught as seminars, with desks arranged in a circle and plenty of class discussion. (The Great Books class in the English department is a particular favorite.) But the overall tone of the school is traditional, with desks in rows and the teacher at the front doing most of the talking. Class size is large, which makes seminar-style teaching more difficult to accommodate. "It's probably one of the most traditional high schools in New York City," said Teitel. "That goes under the category, 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it,'"

The school works best for kids who are self-starters, who are self-confident and not afraid to seek out help from adults and other students. "If you need someone to take you under their wing and shepherd you through an adolescent crisis, this is not the place for you," Blumm said. On the other hand, teachers are available to help if asked. "If a kid wants to approach adults, they will fall all over you to help," he said.

Special education: The school is not particularly accommodating to children with special needs, Teitel acknowledged. However, Blumm said increasing number of students receive what are called "504 accommodations," such as extended time on tests, because of learning disabilities.

The school offers open houses for prospective students and their parents in the fall. Check the school's web site, www.stuy.edu, for the dates or a virtual tour. (Clara Hemphill, March 2006. This school is profiled NYC's Best Public High Schools: A Parent's Guide.)

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(alumnus)
Feb 2, 2009

"I graduated from Stuy in June. I loved the school so much. The kids were so smart and talented. Although everyone was competitive, we were willing to lend a hand to anyone in need. The teachers were also great- who knew calculus could be so much fun? They just went out of their way to help us succeed. The same can be said of other staff members, particularly the guidance counselors. I remember walking into my counselor's office almost everyday during my junior year and she'd listen to me and offer me words of wisdom. Although the parent below correctly acknowledges the weakness of the college office (the college advisers weren't too helpful), Stuy students have a very, very high rate of admission to top colleges! I don't exactly remember the figure, but I think 10% of Stuy kids are accepted to the Ivy League. From the class of 2008, 11 kids went to Dartmouth (more were accepted, but chose other schools) and ~40 went to Cornell. Everyone else goes to other top colleges in the country."

(other)
Dec 5, 2008

The Daily News reports that Stuyvesant is one of nine NYC public high schools to rank among the top 100 high schools in the nation, according to US News and World Report.

(student)
Dec 2, 2008

"I am currently a Junior at Stuyvesant High School. This has been definitely the toughest year I have faced so far. The pressure to succeed is very high and the looming SAT/ACT examinations are just adding onto it. There is definitely a lack of sleep among the students and everyone is stressed out. Over the course of Stuyvesant High School, you learn how to discipline yourself and learn how to time manage. Without these skills, Stuyvesant students will face dire consequences when challanges present themselves (i.e HW, essays, projects, tests). Stuyvesant is definitely not the place for everyone; if you are willing to work hard and succeed then come to Stuy; if you intend on fooling around, you will just fall behind. Stuyvesant definitely builds character. Another comment I would like to note is the caliper of teachers. There are the very good or the very bad. Students here must conform to the teacher to receive their desired mark. It is definitely a very tough school."

(other)
Oct 29, 2008

The New York Daily news reports that a sophomore football player at Stuyvesant HS was suspended after tainting his teammates' sports drinks with a chemical stolen from the school.

(other)
Oct 15, 2008

The New York Times reported on Oct. 2 that Stuyvestant High School's recent student union election is the subject of the new documentary film "Frontrunners."  The Times later reviewed the film.

Jul 22, 2008 "I really love the place. There may have been times when I doubted my choice of going to Stuyvesant, but in general, I really enjoy being at the place," writes a student. "The school is very good in academics. The math and science departments are very strong. At the same time, the English, Social Studies, and other departments are also very challenging. What's very good about the school is that once a student exhausts the school's offerings, the school will try to provide outside offering to accommodate the student's needs, so that the student is not placed in a lackluster class. For example, the school's math curriculum offers up to multivariable calculus. However, if the student is very good in math, and finishes multivariable calculus before senior year and wishes to take more math classes, the school will be able to offer additional math classes at other places, such as NYU or Columbia University. A popular misconception is that Stuyvesant is full of "nerds." While there are people who do nothing more than study, many, actually most of the student body enjoys other offerings from the school. From the many clubs to the sports teams, Stuyvesant offers a wide array of extracurricular activities. The clubs cater to any student's taste, from the prestigious math team, to the award winning debate team, to the community aware key club. If a student could not find the club of his or her choice, he or she can easily start one. Another popular misconception is that the environment is very competitive. While some students obsessively compare their GPA and courses taken, most take a care-free attitude toward their grades. While it concerns them that they're not doing too well on a course, it does not devastate them that they received a 98 as opposed to a 99." (July 2008)

May 5, 2008 "The relative low admission rate to highly selective schools may have something to do with the abysmal college office at Stuyvesant," writes a parent. "Students get almost no advising or support for their college applications. Many of these students come from low-income and immigrant families who do not have the means or experience to support their children in the application process or the money to pay for these schools without lots of financial aid. This makes the support of the school all the more important to students--and its absence truly unfortunate and disappointing." (April 2008)

Feb 18, 2008 A student writes: "This school is extremely suited for those who love to be challenged and for those who love to learn. Although I have to admit the workload is extremely harsh,competition is thick, and pressure is high, it has a lot of great people who will have a lasting impression on you. This school is famous for its highly talented student body, not its faculty which in my opinion contains many under-qualified teachers. Overall it is a great school but if you wish to come here, prepare yourself -- there's a big gap between your middle school work and Stuyvesant high school work." (February 2008)

Oct 29, 2007 Stuyvesant High School made the 2007 Blackboard Awards honor roll for "Overall Academic Rigor" and "Encouragement of Student Participation." One commentator professed interest in getting rid of tenured teachers "who can't and don't teach." Another wrote that despite the large size, "teachers and administrators are responsive." (October 2007)

Oct 23, 2007 A student weighs in on the "lack of diversity" at Stuyvesant: "Stuyvesant HS is in fact a very diverse school. I have became friends some people from all walks of life. I have discovered that Indians, Chinese and Sri Lankan students are very different, yet our society classifies them all as Asians. I love this school and have many fond memories of friends from all over world." (October 2007)

Mar 15, 2007 Stuyvesant was honored by the 2006 Blackboard Awards for its excellence in teaching reading and writing and its encouragement of student participation. (November 2006)

Oct 19, 2006 Parents of a prospective student write that they were disappointed in the school tour: "Students were the tour guides...none were very happy about Stuy, and [they] talked about the internal pressure and inaccessible teachers. There was no faculty available during the tour." She added that the atmosphere was very different at the Brooklyn Tech tour where there were many faculty and students available. "Maybe Stuyvesant doesn't feel it needs to be as forthcoming, but my daughter did not find it encouraging," the parents write. (October 2006)

Jul 6, 2006 A parent complains that "a great deal of the homework doesn't offer any opportunity to learn - it's simply endless repetition of skills these bright kids could master with 3 or 4 homework problems, not 50." (April 2006)

Apr 3, 2006 "This school is great, and as a freshman I am stressed but no more stressed than my friends at Bronx Science, LaGuardia or Beacon," writes a student. "The kids are so nice and while I don't love every teacher that I have there are a few that I love, and with the extracurricular options, there is something for everyone." (March 2006)

Feb 8, 2006 "Contrary to popular belief, there is an enormous amount of diversity within the school," writes a junior at the school. "Even though the diversity does not necessarily lie within race or ethnicity, the sheer size and the amount of opinionated students makes it easy to find a group or many groups of friends that you find things in common with. In such a large school, there are no cliques and there is no 'popular' mentality." This student adds that Stuyvesant's humanities teachers are "amazing. I have actually had better English teachers than math OR science teachers." (January 2006)

Dec 14, 2005 Barry Petchesky, a graduate of Stuyvesant, complains that outside of math and the sciences, the school's curriculum is weak. "The English program was disappointing, with only a couple of good teachers, and journalism was only taught to people on the newspaper," he writes. (December 2005)

Oct 3, 2005 "The lack of diversity can be a bit stifling, but as long as you don't get yourself stuck in one particular group you can have a great experience with meeting people from all over, even though the school is mostly Caucasian and Asian," writes a student. "The science departments are actually some of the weakest teaching-wise, but the kids are smart enough to get a lot out of the courses anyway. Make sure to join some clubs and stay after school!" (September 2005)

Sep 26, 2005 "All these people making comments about the writing program don't know what they're talking about...I took three English classes each semester and audited one during my senior year and they were all stunning," writes former student Hannah Schneider. "Some of the English teachers are the most dedicated and inspiring members of the faculty. Although the department has some bad teachers, just like every other department, the overall department is one of the best in the school." (September 2005)

Sep 19, 2005 "Stuyvesant is tough, harsh, and it prepares you for the real life," writes a student. "Stuyvesant pushes you to give it your all. It won't attempt to make things easier. When you enter college or a career, if you blow it, no one is going to hand you a second chance. Stuyvesant teaches you something important from day one: SURVIVE. Surprisingly, despite the workload and the constant demands, Stuyvesant's community is a gentle one. I'm usually at school until five or six on regular days. Once I was even at school until 12:30 in the morning, with the robotics team getting ready to ship our robot. Stuyvesant is the only high school that can support top-notch engineering teams and award winning speech and debates teams while the Cheese club enjoys high popularity among all the grades. Our school is diverse enough to support four different anime clubs and dozens of culture clubs. So despite trying to stay awake after days of having only four or five hours of sleep, Stuyvesant is definitely worth it." (September 2005)

Aug 11, 2005 "Stuyvesant could use more diversity in their school. I have only seen Asians and Caucasians in this school," writes a student. "Many of these students rely on Saturday schools or preparatory schools to make them on a higher level than the rest of the people in their grade. This bothers me because the teachers don't seem to understand that not all students have the privilege or the money to attend those types of extra programs. I would also like it if the students don't act as snub and stuck up just because they might know more than their classmates. Because of that, there is a lot of pressure on everyone to be better than everyone else... and I HATE THAT!" (August 2005)

May 19, 2005 An Insideschools.org reader writes: "I was accepted into Stuyvesant, but opted to attend Phillips Academy [a boarding school out of state] instead. A few months later I was homesick and decided that I wanted to return to NYC. But upon visiting Stuyvesant, I was struck by the lack of diversity (I am black). My boarding school, with its population of 1200 students, had more African American and Latino students by far. It's a great school, and one of the nation's best, but it really isn't as diverse as it could be in a city like NYC. Also, the humanities programs in the science high schools are not nearly as well developed as those elsewhere. As someone else said, a superior institution, but not a good place for every student." (April 2005)

May 2, 2005 An alumna writes: "The review for Stuy said it was competitive?! I find that amusing. The students compete only with themselves, not with each other. The school is great in that every child is BRILLIANT." She continues: "That said, the teachers are regular Board of Ed. teachers that often know a lot less about a subject than the highly intelligent students. And not all information taught is pertinent to the course. The curriculum and requirements are outstanding, but do we really need an entire year of DRAFTING (architecture) classes?!" She adds: "Be careful of the guidance counselors who have such great college acceptance stats because they tell the students to aim low." (March 2005)

Nov 16, 2004 A student writes: "The writing program really does stink. There is the exception of a few good teachers, but most of the teachers use class time for discussions that are often useless; development of writing style, grammar, and vocabulary is seldom part of class." Of class discussions, she writes: "Everyone says something, and this is "class participation." Even though the same thing is repeated 5 times, it's still supposed to demonstrate ability to analyze complex texts. I think it only demonstrates ability to paraphrase." (October 2004)

Nov 9, 2004 A parent complains that the school's physics curriculum is out of synch with the Regents exam, and says that it disadvantages students whose families can't afford tutors. She writes, that she and other parents are "very frustrated and feel the administration is not responsive." (November 2004)

Nov 9, 2004 A parent writes: "First the good thing: as many people have said, the best thing about Stuy is the students. My son is now a senior and will forever have the numerous brilliant friends he has acquired over the last 4 years. I have to admit that one can only have that kind of stimulating and enriching experience from a school that selects the cream of the crop. The disappointing thing about Stuy, however, is the lack of caring and nurturing from many of the school staff. Having had no previous public school experience, perhaps this is par for the course, but I find it harsh and uncaring for children at this age. I feel that the rampant cheating, stealing, and lack of discipline is a result of the heavy stress on academic performance, at the expense of civility, honor, and integrity. In addition, the apathy of school officials does not help at all." She adds: "With a 3-hour commute, homework, and daily athletic practice, my son thinks he is blessed when he gets 5 hours of sleep. Ask his friends and 4 out of 5 will have the same story -- a worrisome situation for their health and well-being. Nothing is worth that much. (October 2004)

Oct 18, 2004 A student writes: "Stuyvesant is truly a wonderful school that fosters learning. When you walk into the building, you feel excited and ready to learn. Sure, the school is competitive. However, teachers are eager to help students get the best out of their education. The extracurricular activities (i.e. clubs and publications) also allow students to find their interests and to learn more or have fun after school. The students are kind, caring, and above all gifted." (October 2004)

Sep 15, 2004 "Though many people find it competitive, this school has much to offer, and it depends on how competitive you make it," writes a student. "What I HAVE noticed is that there are no cliques and that the environment is extremely welcoming, more than the rumors may seem to show. Like in any school, you may get good or bad teachers depending on luck, but if you are willing to make an effort then this is an amazing school." (September 2004)

Jul 23, 2004

An alumna writes in to tell us about her experiences at Stuyvesant: "It's nice, after having been labeled as a nerd all your life, to come to a high school where you are generally respected, have 30 or so friends, and can get a date who also likes MOMA and discussing string theory. She says the activities are great, and praises the Intel preparation program in particular. However, she notes that "MANY of the 100 or so clubs at Stuy don't do much but fill up college application sheets." She continues, "The classes are diverse and not to be found in almost any other high school -- but you should remember that there is room in a student's program for only a few of them, and they will get a chance to do most of them in college." She also believes Stuy has an "edge" to it that makes it unsuitable for some students: "Stuy's competitiveness is not about intelligence -- it is about assertiveness, hardiness and shrewdness. Nearly all the kids are brilliant -- but sensitive or less self-promoting kids are often overwhelmed." She complains that "adults will often mock a student with problems, condescendingly saying 'I think you were a big fish and now you're a little fish' with a knowing smirk, when in fact student problems rarely stem from a lack of status as much as other issues known to all adolescents. In addition, success is the ethic, and compassion and morals are not. Cheating is rampant, ignored by teachers, and accepted as necessary by students who often don't have enough hours in the day. During school elections it was not unusual for some students to produce satirical cartoons and pieces that were cruel and made fun of the students running. Students are constantly criticized for less than stellar performances even in their fun activities -- one time a drama teacher walked out on a school play, disappointed in the kids' work." She concludes with some advice to parents: You should know that some Stuy students burn out in college and miss out on some of the joys of college. They are tired when they get there and for many experiences, they've been there, done that. If you want your kid to go to Stuy, be prepared to deal with these problems. Monitor your child's workload, assure sensitive/unassertive children can still find places to showcase their talents, and discuss ethics, responsible use of one's talents, and the importance of learning as opposed to getting good grades. Communicate (and make sure) that your love is not dependent on your child's success. Stress the importance of being happy and of being a good person. Stuyvesant does have MANY good points, and neither college nor grad school provided me with peers who had such a diversity of interests or a joy for ideas. But make sure if you want the experience, that you have the tools to enjoy it."

Jun 22, 2004

"The school is wonderful because the majority of instructors are great teachers, and the student body is intelligent," writes a student. "But one warning -- many have the misconceived notion that the majority of students go on to attend the most elite colleges. According to the Wall Street Journal (April 2, 2004, Weekend Section, front page), only 17 percent of 2003 Stuyvesant graduates attended an elite college. (This list of colleges included most of the Ivy League and other outstanding schools.) Over at Bronx Science, 8 percent went on to attend the most prestigious colleges. So before you go to Stuyvesant or any other specialized high school, please remember that the school's name will not automatically vault you into the college of your choice." (April 2004)

A student describes the atmosphere as " too uptight and competitive." (February 2004)


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