Comments on: DOE: We will "solve the problems" with as many as 9K pre-K applications http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/ Sun, 21 Mar 2010 03:19:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Anonymous http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-918 Anonymous Fri, 30 May 2008 18:20:00 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-918 You should direct you comment about PS/IS 499 directly to Klein's office...As messed up as this process has become NO PRINCIPAL should be able to hijack it You should direct you comment about PS/IS 499 directly to Klein’s office…As messed up as this process has become NO PRINCIPAL should be able to hijack it

]]> By: Anonymous http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-905 Anonymous Fri, 30 May 2008 14:52:00 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-905 I am the parent who wrote about the school that is claiming to be a lottery school. That school is PS/IS 499(the Queens College School for Math, Science and Technology in Flushing, Queens. My husband spoke directly with the principal, Ms. Schnieder who stated to him she has a memo of understanding signed by the DOE and Queens College that states her school is a lottery school. We asked her to email us a copy of that but she wouldn't. I am the parent who wrote about the school that is claiming to be a lottery school. That school is PS/IS 499(the Queens College School for Math, Science and Technology in Flushing, Queens. My husband spoke directly with the principal, Ms. Schnieder who stated to him she has a memo of understanding signed by the DOE and Queens College that states her school is a lottery school. We asked her to email us a copy of that but she wouldn’t.

]]> By: Anonymous http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-902 Anonymous Fri, 30 May 2008 12:08:00 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-902 Brian...Why wouldn't ranking trump zoning..If you choose to pick a school that you were not zoned for over your zoned school and were accepted than another parent would voice the same concern you just raised.Did you on your application put your zoned school as your first choice? The same can be said for sibling priority..If you didn't put the sibling school as your first choice you should not expect to have that priority.<br/>As a parent of a unzoned sibling who got in to his first choice,I really feel bad for the parents who did not get in but I could not have expected to have it both ways... Brian…Why wouldn’t ranking trump zoning..If you choose to pick a school that you were not zoned for over your zoned school and were accepted than another parent would voice the same concern you just raised.Did you on your application put your zoned school as your first choice? The same can be said for sibling priority..If you didn’t put the sibling school as your first choice you should not expect to have that priority.
As a parent of a unzoned sibling who got in to his first choice,I really feel bad for the parents who did not get in but I could not have expected to have it both ways…

]]> By: Brian http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-897 Brian Fri, 30 May 2008 03:16:00 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-897 I am concerned that the problem is being inaccurately portrayed as a sibling issue only. We discovered that out of zone kids with NO siblings were accepted to PS 10 while several in zone kids (my son included) were not.<br/> <br/>Is it possible that the ranking order on the application trumps zone priority? If so, this was never stated on the application and may be a root cause for the results.<br/><br/>I feel that the DOE needs to examine the non-sibling problem; Jacob suggests that only sibling applications are being reviewed. I also think that the DOE needs to explain EXACTLY how the computer algorithm worked.<br/><br/>Brian I am concerned that the problem is being inaccurately portrayed as a sibling issue only. We discovered that out of zone kids with NO siblings were accepted to PS 10 while several in zone kids (my son included) were not.

Is it possible that the ranking order on the application trumps zone priority? If so, this was never stated on the application and may be a root cause for the results.

I feel that the DOE needs to examine the non-sibling problem; Jacob suggests that only sibling applications are being reviewed. I also think that the DOE needs to explain EXACTLY how the computer algorithm worked.

Brian

]]> By: Anonymous http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-892 Anonymous Thu, 29 May 2008 23:01:00 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-892 I don't have my letter yet. But I called the DOE and was told that we got our first choice school. So I will be calling to make my appointment tomorrow. District 3 I don’t have my letter yet. But I called the DOE and was told that we got our first choice school. So I will be calling to make my appointment tomorrow. District 3

]]> By: Anonymous http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-886 Anonymous Thu, 29 May 2008 18:20:00 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-886 If the statement "The kicker is when I called the school to set up a pre-registration date, they told me they were a lottery school and had already given all the seats to the children who got accepted in their lottery" is true than that school and principal need to be made an example of...a public outing of that school needs to be made... If the statement “The kicker is when I called the school to set up a pre-registration date, they told me they were a lottery school and had already given all the seats to the children who got accepted in their lottery” is true than that school and principal need to be made an example of…a public outing of that school needs to be made…

]]> By: Anonymous http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-877 Anonymous Thu, 29 May 2008 17:28:00 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-877 why is it so hard to find competent people to do this kind of work? and create the forms? and just check things in general? aren't there project managers for this kind of thing? DOE could use a bit of help from the direct marketers. why is it so hard to find competent people to do this kind of work? and create the forms? and just check things in general? aren’t there project managers for this kind of thing? DOE could use a bit of help from the direct marketers.

]]> By: Anonymous http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-876 Anonymous Thu, 29 May 2008 17:13:00 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-876 I just wanted to correct my last statement. The school does only have 1 pre-k class not 4 as I stated before. It still doesn't change the fact that the DOE dropped the ball in my situation as well as others. The city plans on cutting 450 million dollars to our NYC schools and they have the nerve to pay a company in Pennsylvania to do the work we already pay people in NYC to do. Shame on you, Mayor Bloomberg and NYC School Chancellor Joel Klien. I just wanted to correct my last statement. The school does only have 1 pre-k class not 4 as I stated before. It still doesn’t change the fact that the DOE dropped the ball in my situation as well as others. The city plans on cutting 450 million dollars to our NYC schools and they have the nerve to pay a company in Pennsylvania to do the work we already pay people in NYC to do. Shame on you, Mayor Bloomberg and NYC School Chancellor Joel Klien.

]]> By: Anonymous http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-871 Anonymous Thu, 29 May 2008 16:02:00 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-871 I am a rare parent whose child was accepted into the pre-k of my choice. The kicker is when I called the school to set up a pre-registration date, they told me they were a lottery school and had already given all the seats to the children who got accepted in their lottery. This school was listed in the Pre-K Directory given out by the DOE. It also listed the school had 4 all day pre-k classes but the principal of the school told me they only have 1 pre-k class. Whose fault is this? Mine? I don't think so. I am a rare parent whose child was accepted into the pre-k of my choice. The kicker is when I called the school to set up a pre-registration date, they told me they were a lottery school and had already given all the seats to the children who got accepted in their lottery. This school was listed in the Pre-K Directory given out by the DOE. It also listed the school had 4 all day pre-k classes but the principal of the school told me they only have 1 pre-k class. Whose fault is this? Mine? I don’t think so.

]]> By: Anonymous http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-869 Anonymous Thu, 29 May 2008 15:26:00 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/05/29/doe-we-will-solve-the-problems-with-as-many-as-9k-pre-k-applications/#comment-869 So glad Spokesman Andy Jacob is "confident" it's not a data entry problem, but how was it that my street is spelled incorrectly on the denial letter, but is totally correct on the application form? Sorry, Andy, but you're just plain wrong. So glad Spokesman Andy Jacob is “confident” it’s not a data entry problem, but how was it that my street is spelled incorrectly on the denial letter, but is totally correct on the application form? Sorry, Andy, but you’re just plain wrong.

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