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	<title>Comments on: Weekly news round-up: scoring students, scoring Klein, no more summer vacation?</title>
	<link>http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/06/27/weekly-news-round-up-scoring-students-scoring-klein-no-more-summer-vacation/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/06/27/weekly-news-round-up-scoring-students-scoring-klein-no-more-summer-vacation/#comment-1810</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with longer school days, so long as there's actually learning going on. So much of the 'extended school days' in NYC a couple of years ago were absolutely wasted on 'management' schemes and other ways of complying with the new reg without actually teaching the kids anything.&lt;br/&gt;If teachers aren't supported, I will bet that very little will be accomplished in those extra hours. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Although I also think it's dangerous to rule out the value of test prep -- with one very important caveat: the test itself has to be legitimate and valuale. If what's being tested is actually substance and skill, there's no problem with teachers teaching that substance and skill. It's when the tests themselves don't measure what's supposed to be happening in the classroom, but instead measure how well students can fill in bubbles or rule out obviously wrong answers, that test prep becomes a totally vapid exercise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with longer school days, so long as there&#8217;s actually learning going on. So much of the &#8216;extended school days&#8217; in NYC a couple of years ago were absolutely wasted on &#8216;management&#8217; schemes and other ways of complying with the new reg without actually teaching the kids anything.<br />If teachers aren&#8217;t supported, I will bet that very little will be accomplished in those extra hours. </p>
<p>Although I also think it&#8217;s dangerous to rule out the value of test prep &#8212; with one very important caveat: the test itself has to be legitimate and valuale. If what&#8217;s being tested is actually substance and skill, there&#8217;s no problem with teachers teaching that substance and skill. It&#8217;s when the tests themselves don&#8217;t measure what&#8217;s supposed to be happening in the classroom, but instead measure how well students can fill in bubbles or rule out obviously wrong answers, that test prep becomes a totally vapid exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://insideschools.org/blog/2008/06/27/weekly-news-round-up-scoring-students-scoring-klein-no-more-summer-vacation/#comment-1807</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not crazy about the notion of longer school days, per Paul Vallas. I think it's a bad idea--longer school days so they can spend ever more time at test prep?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not crazy about the notion of longer school days, per Paul Vallas. I think it&#8217;s a bad idea&#8211;longer school days so they can spend ever more time at test prep?</p>
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