Comments on: Ask Judy: Middle school placement appeal http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:38:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Judy http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7701 Judy Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:16:00 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7701 Please note: If you have a personal question for Judy, please click on the link that says, "Have a question for Judy? Contact Judy" You will find it at the end of the AskJudy column. I will be glad to respond directly. Please note: If you have a personal question for Judy, please click on the link that says, “Have a question for Judy? Contact Judy” You will find it at the end of the AskJudy column. I will be glad to respond directly.

]]> By: anonymous http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7692 anonymous Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:36:58 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7692 Re the last 2 posts - the middle school and high school processes are different. High schools look at all applicants, but selective middle schools only have to interview/test those who ranked them 1st or 2nd. Middle schools see how you ranked them and high schools don't. Re the last 2 posts - the middle school and high school processes are different. High schools look at all applicants, but selective middle schools only have to interview/test those who ranked them 1st or 2nd. Middle schools see how you ranked them and high schools don’t.

]]> By: fifthgrade parent http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7691 fifthgrade parent Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:03:47 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7691 With regard to the prior post: This winter, I asked this question of the District 15 middle school coordinator and was told the following: the desirable schools that require interviews, auditions, etc, only have time to interview kids who list them first or second. Based on these auditions, interviews, etc. the schools then develop lists of the kids who they want and submit the lists to the central office. In practice, therefore, the desirable schools can fill whole classes with kids who ranked them first (or maybe second), so they never get to the kids who ranked them third, and who they never interviewed. This is NOT the way we were told that the high school process worked (at least two years ago). We were told that the high schools auditioned or interviewed all kids who met their basic criteria and that the high schools had no way of knowing how the kids ranked them. With regard to the prior post: This winter, I asked this question of the District 15 middle school coordinator and was told the following: the desirable schools that require interviews, auditions, etc, only have time to interview kids who list them first or second. Based on these auditions, interviews, etc. the schools then develop lists of the kids who they want and submit the lists to the central office. In practice, therefore, the desirable schools can fill whole classes with kids who ranked them first (or maybe second), so they never get to the kids who ranked them third, and who they never interviewed. This is NOT the way we were told that the high school process worked (at least two years ago). We were told that the high schools auditioned or interviewed all kids who met their basic criteria and that the high schools had no way of knowing how the kids ranked them.

]]> By: a parent http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7688 a parent Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:01:33 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7688 As the parent of a rising 5th grader in District 2, I am very interested in your reply to number 5. At my daughter's school I have also heard that people either got their first choice or their 3rd (generally Wagner SP), NEVER the second choice. If certain schools cannot consider those who put it second, transparency demands that this be made clear up front. Apparently the district claims that you don't have to put a selective school first choice to be considered by them. Is there any way you can press the powers that be on this question and get a truthful answer? As the parent of a rising 5th grader in District 2, I am very interested in your reply to number 5. At my daughter’s school I have also heard that people either got their first choice or their 3rd (generally Wagner SP), NEVER the second choice. If certain schools cannot consider those who put it second, transparency demands that this be made clear up front. Apparently the district claims that you don’t have to put a selective school first choice to be considered by them. Is there any way you can press the powers that be on this question and get a truthful answer?

]]> By: 5th Grade parent http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7673 5th Grade parent Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:37:16 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7673 Dear Judy, my son is applying to 6th grade entry in District 2 public schools. We just found out that he did not get accepted to any of the 4 schools he applied to. Basically, his 1st choice school did not accept him and all three other schools told us that they did not look at his application because they had more than enough candidates with their 1st choice pool. The whole thing seems like a complete waste. Now we are back to square one and have to file an appeal form. Is it allowed to appeal to a complete new school in his District where we did not apply before? There seems to be a lot of confusion and contradictions between what the school counselors say, and what the DOE says. Any clarity and advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Dear Judy,
my son is applying to 6th grade entry in District 2 public schools. We just found out that he did not get accepted to any of the 4 schools he applied to. Basically, his 1st choice school did not accept him and all three other schools told us that they did not look at his application because they had more than enough candidates with their 1st choice pool. The whole thing seems like a complete waste.
Now we are back to square one and have to file an appeal form. Is it allowed to appeal to a complete new school in his District where we did not apply before? There seems to be a lot of confusion and contradictions between what the school counselors say, and what the DOE says. Any clarity and advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

]]> By: Monifa Thomas http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7644 Monifa Thomas Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:31:28 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7644 Tracy, I was told that you can also appeal the appellate decision. So that's something to consider. Tracy,
I was told that you can also appeal the appellate decision. So that’s something to consider.

]]> By: Tracy Hoo-Florian http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7637 Tracy Hoo-Florian Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:41:41 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7637 Dear Judy, My son was transfer to another district because his school was a no child left behind. He has been attending school in district 22 since 3rd grade and is graduating to middle school. He has recieve level 4 (majority) and high level 3 (3 exams) on his state examination since 3rd grade and ironically did not get accept to any middle school in distict 22. The denial letter states to go back into his orginally zone (in which the grade are poor and in need of serious improvement). I did get the appeal letter to fill out and curious if there is another way around the appeal if he gets denied again, as I do want to upkeep his grades at a level 4 at all times. I would like to use his grades on the state exam as well as in school as a foundation of my fight to appeal the decision. Thank You Very Much Dear Judy,

My son was transfer to another district because his school was a no child left behind. He has been attending school in district 22 since 3rd grade and is graduating to middle school. He has recieve level 4 (majority) and high level 3 (3 exams) on his state examination since 3rd grade and ironically did not get accept to any middle school in distict 22. The denial letter states to go back into his orginally zone (in which the grade are poor and in need of serious improvement). I did get the appeal letter to fill out and curious if there is another way around the appeal if he gets denied again, as I do want to upkeep his grades at a level 4 at all times. I would like to use his grades on the state exam as well as in school as a foundation of my fight to appeal the decision.

Thank You Very Much

]]> By: Myriam Charles http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7623 Myriam Charles Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:00:31 +0000 http://insideschools.org/blog/2009/06/02/ask-judy-middle-school-placement-appeal/#comment-7623 Dear JUdy, My daughter is in 3rd grade going to fourth, I would like to place her in a gifted middle school where I don't have to be worry about middle school ,when she reaches 5th grade. I have been asking my school for citywide gifted aplication and I never got it. what can I do about that? Dear JUdy,
My daughter is in 3rd grade going to fourth, I would like to place her in a gifted middle school where I don’t have to be worry about middle school ,when she reaches 5th grade. I have been asking my school for citywide gifted aplication and I never got it. what can I do about that?

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